Re: killing netscape

[Peter Johansson <peter@REMOVEME.ps.baltimore.md.us>]

I'm gonna try, really, *really* hard to keep the flame level down on
this one.

Jon writes:

> I understand UCS is overworked and under paid and that you are
> hassled by students and faculty.

Huh?  What has this got to do with anything?  This mailing list is for
the linux users group for which umbc graciously provides meeting
space.  This is *not* a forum for support from UCS, and you should be
glad that UCS people do, in fact, monitor it and reply when they have
time.

> Still, it would be nice if you gave accurate advice.

What, exactly, about the advice that Rob provided was not accurite?

> I read the "man" page for "rfind"
> This was one of the harder to read "man" pages but I learned
> enough to give it a try.
> 
> Well, "... rfindd not installed ..."
> Was all I could get on UMBC gl or cs.
> Thank you Robert for your expert advice.

Of course umbc does not run rfindd.  Why would they?  Do you have any
idea how long it would take to index the entire GL filesystem?  Do you
have any idea how large the index would be?  And what would be the
point, since most users do not have access to most of the filespace
anyways?

If you want to play with rfindd, why not try to install it yourself on
your own linux box?

> Signed "The dumb one who can not understand all the places USC
>         can hide files on gl."

UMBC has one of best admined setups that you will find anywhere.  It
is pretty rare that I use my umbc account any more, but when I do I
find things to be very well organized.

> I was trying to find out if UCS ever responded to me request
> to make gnat available on gl using:
> 
>    find / -name gnat\* -print
> 
> You tell me how to do the search, please.

Do you have any clue as to what 'find /' means in a global filesystem
setup?  Well, for starters, you'll not only wind up trying to search
the entire umbc filespace (probably several TB at this point) but the
entire public space of several dozen other universities and
institutions as well.

UMBC does a damn good job of keeping the /usr/local software tree
updated, and an even better job of documenting it.  You *have* looked
at http://www.gl.umbc.edu/local_changelog.shtml and 
http://www.gl.umbc.edu/environments.shtml, right?

If you need gnat (I presume the gnu ada compiler) for a class, then
the instructor should contact UCS to get it installed.  If you want to
use it for personal use, well, you ought to just sprount a clue and
install it on your own system.

If you have a simple question, like "how do I compile an ada program"
or "how to determine if a software package is installed" or "how do I
get a software package installed at UCS" then just friggin' ask it!
Don't ask silly questions 'how do I use find to determine if xyz is
installed.'

And finally, if you bite at the hand the *volunteers* assistance, you
will serve nothing other than to piss that person off, and make them
less likely to answer questions here in the future.  After all, some
of us may need to ask an *important* question someday that requires
their answer.

(steps off soapbox.)

-p.